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Low attendance at the Summer Shoot

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:32 pm
by Forest Horde
The issue of low attendance at the Society of Archer-Antiquaries Antiquarian Shoot was raised in the latest issue of Arrowhead.

I can think of no place better to discuss this than on this forum, so I am going to open the discussion with some of my thoughts.

I think the format of the day requires some revision as in my view very little shooting actually takes place, and those that shoot use primarily Victorian longbows.

As a society we only meet twice a year for the AGM in March and for the Summer Shoot in August. I think we are not making the most of the opportunity that the annual shoot presents.

I would suggest at the very least having one of the targets available for practice and demonstration during some of the free time, to enable members to share their equipment with others. As in recent years we have witnessed some diverse equipment on the shooting line. Whose presence has stimulated interest and discussion, it almost feels too late in the day to see this equipment for the first time during the shoot, by which time the day is almost over.

The future of the shoot, and the society as a whole, is in the hands of the membership. It is down to us all to contribute in anyway we can. We currently only have access to the Royal Tox for two days in the year we need to make them count. We have a wonderful collection which we are not making the most of.

What are your thoughts forum?
Any suggestions, improvements that could be made, features that could be included?

This is our shoot we need to take ownership of it by having our say.

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:13 pm
by Richard Wadge
While I've not been a member long enough to attend any of the Society meetings yet, I do think that holding any meeting/shoot in August can be problematical. It remains the traditional month for holidays, particularly for those of us who have to follow the school/education holiday timetable to some degree. I believe that moving the shoot to June or first 3 weeks of July or even September might help.

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:10 pm
by admin
Richard - you make a very good point, and this has formed part of the deliberations of the committee. The difficulty is that we are guests of the Royal Tox, and must fit in with their programme and other arrangements.

Whether negotiations might find a more suitable date we shall have to see. Not my province, I have to say.


Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:38 pm
by Forest Horde
Well I am slightly surprised that no one has wished to comment on my initial posting, regarding the annual shoot.

On the plus side many have viewed the posting and some of the forum have voted on the attached poll.

Perhaps we could use this feature more often to canvas opinion?

We will no doubt have to discuss these points further at the AGM on Sunday.

But it is essential that we address the root cause of the problem rather than merely treating the symptoms


Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:45 pm
by admin
There have been some comments made to the Hon Sec by post and these will be noted when it comes to discussion on the matter - as will the posts and poll here.

I think the reason there have been so few responses is that most of those using the Forum regularly are overseas, and are extremely unlikely ever to attend a meeting, so I guess they felt there was nothing they could usefully contribute.

We still have the matter of the AGM at which there is no shooting and at which attendance has been slowly decreasing - in part at least because of an aging membership no linger up to long journeys. I am afraid this is not confined to our Society but is endemic everywhere.

It would be a great pity if the Society were to fold up, but unless we get more younger people to take on administrative roles, and enough members at the AGM to make a quorum, then this might well happen.

Thank you for your interest in this matter, and we look forward to seeing you on 9th March


Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:48 pm
by Hugh Soar
There will be a period in the morning given over to 'experimental archaeology', which will provide an opportunity for 'historic' replica bows to be shot for performance. I hope that this will partially satisfy those who feel that not enough time is given over to shooting. It will be nice to see rather more of you present at each Meeting however. There was not even a quorem at the AGM. Use it, or lose it !

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:03 am
by Mike Hardman
I too have not yet had the opportunity to go to a S.A.A. meeting, so I am slighlty uniformed as to what actually is said or done.
Having said that though, this being an Archer society, it seems to befit that archery should be practised. I would be very interested in watching others shoot traditional styles, and I'd like very much to demonstrate my own shooting, and see how good more learned archers think it is.
With regards to the date of the shoot, I think a prefered would differ for everyone. August is fine for me, and I hope to be along to this years shoot.

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:47 pm
by admin
Slight correction Mike, The Society is an Antiquarian Society - Although its specific field is Archery, it is not an archery society. Pedantic I know, but the main thrust of activities has always been research and the exchange of knowledge. No reason why the research should not include trying out bows, arrows and so forth, and hopefully that side of things might increase with the new arrangements.


Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 4:24 pm
by Forest Horde
So who is planning on going to the Annual Shoot?


Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:05 pm
by Hugh Soar
The afternoon Bow Meeting will be attended by members who have come for that purpose. Most arrive in the morning though and spend the time before lunch socialising and looking at books, and material brought for sale or exchange, or just for viewing. The morning shoot is an innovation and one which I hope will be supported. If it proves popular then it will become a fixture, but we shall see. It is intended for the controlled demonstration of 'historic replicas', hence the title ' experimental archaeology'. Hope that clarifies matters. I look forward to seeing you there.

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:22 pm
by Forest Horde
Not long to go now. I hope you have all sent in your attendance forms for the annual shoot.


Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:10 pm
by Forest Horde
Just like to say it was good to see such a high turnout at the annual shoot earlier in the month. For those unable to attend, new for this year was the opportunity to shoot in the morning with a range of historic bows. Many took advantage of this a brought along a wide range of different bows among them were, Japanese Yumi, Medieval Tartar composite, a Turkish composite, a traditional longbow of ipe, a Medieval yew longbow and as part of the outreach project a continental longbow, based on the example in the collection by Bourgogne.

In addition to the shooting there as the opportunity to discuss ideas and thoughts about the different equipment for example methods for working the horn, of horn and sinew composites or the method of shooting a Yumi. I found that this was very worth while and would hope that this will be included in the schedule for future shoots.


Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:29 pm
by Hugh Soar
I'm glad to read that the innovation was successful. I had hoped that it would be of interest to serious researchers. Certainly I expect it to feature next year. It would be nice to include it as a feature of the March Meeting also but there may not be time.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:16 am
by Forest Horde
I agree, time maybe an issue for March, however it may encourage more people to attend the AGM?


Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:02 pm
by Mike Hardman
It depends on whether or not someone has something specific to show that would be of interest. A form of presentation perhaps, rather than the less formal nature of the shoot, that way it could be timetabled.

What is the nature of the AGM? A session before it begins or after it ends might be welcomed as a good addition, if you can guarantee there will be things of interest? Perhaps let people know through Arrowhead if anyone has anything to demonstrate?